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  <title>Adoption, Cyberpunk Values and the Shift in Power with Temujin Louie</title>
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  <description>This episode of the #citizenweb3 podcast features Temujin Louie from Wanchain
Temujin Louie, warns that while compromise is inevitable, the industry must not abandon its original cyberpunk values and should focus on solving fundamental problems rather than chasing unsustainable trends. He stresses moving beyond token bridges, avoiding proprietary infrastructure, and aiming for true innovation that delivers lasting, open solutions.
Wanchain is a blockchain interoperability project connecting nearly 40 chains, enabling seamless cross-chain transactions and decentralized applications. Its mission is to replace fragmented, proprietary systems with open, sustainable infrastructure that drives real adoption and innovation.
We spoke to Temujin Louie (https://x.com/TemujinLouie)  about Wanchain (https://x.com/wanchain_org) and:
Fear of technology
Shift on power
Undoubtedly there will have to be some compromise
Solve fundamental problems first or cut ourselves out by the knees
Adoption and losing some of these values
The original vision
Cyberpunk values
99% of the industry is not sustainable
The next innovative thing that's going to happen
Move away from purely just token bridges
Replacing core infrastructure with proprietary product is never a good idea
An actual win outcome in solving this problem
Timestamps 
00:00 – 07:50 : Intro 
07:50 -- 09:50 : Shift of power
09:50 -- 11:45 : Social networks
11:45 -- 16:40 : Spectrums
16:40 -- 21:30 : Adoption and values 
21:30 -- 26:03 : Growing from the community
26:03 -- 33:25 : Difference between Web2 and Web3
33:25 -- 40:50 : Blockchains bring in real revenue
40:50 -- 46:15 : Bridges and failure point
46:15 -- 52:04 : Cross-chain developer community and tribalism
52:04 -- 53:56 : Biggest myth or misconception about bridges
53:56 -- 58:59 : The Blitz
If you like what we do at Citizen Web3:
Stake with Citizen Web3 validator (https://www.citizenweb3.com/staking)
Listen to the YouTube version (https://youtu.be/NWYkvjOKxSA)
Follow us on Twitter (https://x.com/citizen_web3)
Sign up to the RSS feed (https://www.citizenweb3.com/rss)
Special Guest: Temujin Louie.
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<p>This episode of the #citizenweb3 podcast features Temujin Louie from Wanchain</p>

<p>Temujin Louie, warns that while compromise is inevitable, the industry must not abandon its original cyberpunk values and should focus on solving fundamental problems rather than chasing unsustainable trends. He stresses moving beyond token bridges, avoiding proprietary infrastructure, and aiming for true innovation that delivers lasting, open solutions.</p>

<p>Wanchain is a blockchain interoperability project connecting nearly 40 chains, enabling seamless cross-chain transactions and decentralized applications. Its mission is to replace fragmented, proprietary systems with open, sustainable infrastructure that drives real adoption and innovation.</p>

<hr>

<h5>We spoke to <a href="https://x.com/TemujinLouie" rel="nofollow">Temujin Louie</a>  about <a href="https://x.com/wanchain_org" rel="nofollow">Wanchain</a> and:</h5>

<ul>
<li>Fear of technology</li>
<li>Shift on power</li>
<li>Undoubtedly there will have to be some compromise</li>
<li>Solve fundamental problems first or cut ourselves out by the knees</li>
<li>Adoption and losing some of these values</li>
<li>The original vision</li>
<li>Cyberpunk values</li>
<li>99% of the industry is not sustainable</li>
<li>The next innovative thing that&#39;s going to happen</li>
<li>Move away from purely just token bridges</li>
<li>Replacing core infrastructure with proprietary product is never a good idea</li>
<li>An actual win outcome in solving this problem</li>
</ul>

<p>Timestamps </p>

<p>00:00 – 07:50 : Intro <br>
07:50 -- 09:50 : Shift of power<br>
09:50 -- 11:45 : Social networks<br>
11:45 -- 16:40 : Spectrums<br>
16:40 -- 21:30 : Adoption and values <br>
21:30 -- 26:03 : Growing from the community<br>
26:03 -- 33:25 : Difference between Web2 and Web3<br>
33:25 -- 40:50 : Blockchains bring in real revenue<br>
40:50 -- 46:15 : Bridges and failure point<br>
46:15 -- 52:04 : Cross-chain developer community and tribalism<br>
52:04 -- 53:56 : Biggest myth or misconception about bridges<br>
53:56 -- 58:59 : The Blitz</p>

<hr>

<h5>If you like what we do at Citizen Web3:</h5>

<ul>
<li>Stake with Citizen Web3 <a href="https://www.citizenweb3.com/staking" rel="nofollow">validator</a></li>
<li>Listen to the <a href="https://youtu.be/NWYkvjOKxSA" rel="nofollow">YouTube version</a></li>
<li>Follow us on <a href="https://x.com/citizen_web3" rel="nofollow">Twitter</a></li>
<li>Sign up to the <a href="https://www.citizenweb3.com/rss" rel="nofollow">RSS feed</a></li>
</ul><p>Special Guest: Temujin Louie.</p><p>Links:</p><ul><li><a title="3 Body Problem" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt13016388/">3 Body Problem</a></li><li><a title="AT&amp;T Hacker &#39;Weev&#39;" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.wired.com/2014/04/att-hacker-conviction-vacated/">AT&amp;T Hacker 'Weev'</a></li><li><a title="Bitcoin" rel="nofollow" href="https://bitcoin.org/en/">Bitcoin</a></li><li><a title="ByBit Hack" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c2kgndwwd7lo">ByBit Hack</a></li><li><a title="Enterprise Ethereum Alliance" rel="nofollow" href="https://entethalliance.org/">Enterprise Ethereum Alliance</a></li><li><a title="Goku" rel="nofollow" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goku">Goku</a></li><li><a title="Linux Foundation" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.linuxfoundation.org/">Linux Foundation</a></li><li><a title="London School of Economics" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.lse.ac.uk/">London School of Economics</a></li><li><a title="London’s Stock Exchange" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.londonstockexchange.com/">London’s Stock Exchange</a></li><li><a title="Monero" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.getmonero.org/">Monero</a></li><li><a title="Netflix" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.netflix.com/">Netflix</a></li><li><a title="Power: A Radical View by Steven Lukes" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/815124.Power">Power: A Radical View by Steven Lukes</a></li><li><a title="Silk Road" rel="nofollow" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silk_Road_(marketplace)">Silk Road</a></li><li><a title="The Three-Body Problem by Liu Cixin" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/20518872-the-three-body-problem?ref=nav_sb_ss_1_12">The Three-Body Problem by Liu Cixin</a></li><li><a title="Tornado Cash" rel="nofollow" href="https://tornado.cash/">Tornado Cash</a></li></ul>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<hr>

<p>This episode of the #citizenweb3 podcast features Temujin Louie from Wanchain</p>

<p>Temujin Louie, warns that while compromise is inevitable, the industry must not abandon its original cyberpunk values and should focus on solving fundamental problems rather than chasing unsustainable trends. He stresses moving beyond token bridges, avoiding proprietary infrastructure, and aiming for true innovation that delivers lasting, open solutions.</p>

<p>Wanchain is a blockchain interoperability project connecting nearly 40 chains, enabling seamless cross-chain transactions and decentralized applications. Its mission is to replace fragmented, proprietary systems with open, sustainable infrastructure that drives real adoption and innovation.</p>

<hr>

<h5>We spoke to <a href="https://x.com/TemujinLouie" rel="nofollow">Temujin Louie</a>  about <a href="https://x.com/wanchain_org" rel="nofollow">Wanchain</a> and:</h5>

<ul>
<li>Fear of technology</li>
<li>Shift on power</li>
<li>Undoubtedly there will have to be some compromise</li>
<li>Solve fundamental problems first or cut ourselves out by the knees</li>
<li>Adoption and losing some of these values</li>
<li>The original vision</li>
<li>Cyberpunk values</li>
<li>99% of the industry is not sustainable</li>
<li>The next innovative thing that&#39;s going to happen</li>
<li>Move away from purely just token bridges</li>
<li>Replacing core infrastructure with proprietary product is never a good idea</li>
<li>An actual win outcome in solving this problem</li>
</ul>

<p>Timestamps </p>

<p>00:00 – 07:50 : Intro <br>
07:50 -- 09:50 : Shift of power<br>
09:50 -- 11:45 : Social networks<br>
11:45 -- 16:40 : Spectrums<br>
16:40 -- 21:30 : Adoption and values <br>
21:30 -- 26:03 : Growing from the community<br>
26:03 -- 33:25 : Difference between Web2 and Web3<br>
33:25 -- 40:50 : Blockchains bring in real revenue<br>
40:50 -- 46:15 : Bridges and failure point<br>
46:15 -- 52:04 : Cross-chain developer community and tribalism<br>
52:04 -- 53:56 : Biggest myth or misconception about bridges<br>
53:56 -- 58:59 : The Blitz</p>

<hr>

<h5>If you like what we do at Citizen Web3:</h5>

<ul>
<li>Stake with Citizen Web3 <a href="https://www.citizenweb3.com/staking" rel="nofollow">validator</a></li>
<li>Listen to the <a href="https://youtu.be/NWYkvjOKxSA" rel="nofollow">YouTube version</a></li>
<li>Follow us on <a href="https://x.com/citizen_web3" rel="nofollow">Twitter</a></li>
<li>Sign up to the <a href="https://www.citizenweb3.com/rss" rel="nofollow">RSS feed</a></li>
</ul><p>Special Guest: Temujin Louie.</p><p>Links:</p><ul><li><a title="3 Body Problem" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt13016388/">3 Body Problem</a></li><li><a title="AT&amp;T Hacker &#39;Weev&#39;" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.wired.com/2014/04/att-hacker-conviction-vacated/">AT&amp;T Hacker 'Weev'</a></li><li><a title="Bitcoin" rel="nofollow" href="https://bitcoin.org/en/">Bitcoin</a></li><li><a title="ByBit Hack" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c2kgndwwd7lo">ByBit Hack</a></li><li><a title="Enterprise Ethereum Alliance" rel="nofollow" href="https://entethalliance.org/">Enterprise Ethereum Alliance</a></li><li><a title="Goku" rel="nofollow" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goku">Goku</a></li><li><a title="Linux Foundation" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.linuxfoundation.org/">Linux Foundation</a></li><li><a title="London School of Economics" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.lse.ac.uk/">London School of Economics</a></li><li><a title="London’s Stock Exchange" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.londonstockexchange.com/">London’s Stock Exchange</a></li><li><a title="Monero" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.getmonero.org/">Monero</a></li><li><a title="Netflix" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.netflix.com/">Netflix</a></li><li><a title="Power: A Radical View by Steven Lukes" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/815124.Power">Power: A Radical View by Steven Lukes</a></li><li><a title="Silk Road" rel="nofollow" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silk_Road_(marketplace)">Silk Road</a></li><li><a title="The Three-Body Problem by Liu Cixin" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/20518872-the-three-body-problem?ref=nav_sb_ss_1_12">The Three-Body Problem by Liu Cixin</a></li><li><a title="Tornado Cash" rel="nofollow" href="https://tornado.cash/">Tornado Cash</a></li></ul>]]>
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