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Blockchain-agnostic and building for decentralization, Citizen Web3 runs off-the-grid, non-custodial validator infrastructure, contributing to public goods and Web3.  Support our work by staking with us: staking.citizenweb3.com/
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Blockchain-agnostic and building for decentralization, Citizen Web3 runs off-the-grid, non-custodial validator infrastructure, contributing to public goods and Web3.  Support our work by staking with us: staking.citizenweb3.com/
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  <title>Solo Staking, Ethereum Foundation and Oceanography with Nixo</title>
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  <description>This episode of the #citizenweb3 podcast features Nixo from Ethereum Foundation
Nixo shared candid insights on trust in centralized exchanges, the small yet influential nature of Crypto Twitter, and the importance of following genuine interests over money. He also highlighted challenges in finding competent legal experts and how people are naturally inclined to pick sides in the crypto space.
The Ethereum Foundation (EF) is a nonprofit dedicated to supporting Ethereum’s development, research, and ecosystem growth. While it doesn’t control Ethereum, it funds key upgrades, research, and community initiatives to ensure the network remains open, decentralized, and innovative.
We spoke to Nixo (https://x.com/nixorokish?t=ouWgiEmgpDMG0gI7_br-Sg&amp;amp;s=09)  about Ethereum Foundation (https://x.com/ethereumfndn) and:
I was like, of course, I trust centralized exchanges
Sketchy Russian exchange
Breeds of Oceanographers
Solo stakers
Go where you’re interested instead of following the money
Synthesizing cocaine
Finding competent lawyers and CPAs
Crypto Twitter is extremely small 
Evolutionarily predisposed to picking a team
Timestamps
00:00 – 11:30 : Intro 
11:30 -- 18:10 : Dream journey
18:10 -- 24:00 : Sirens are calling and the loss of physical cash
24:00 -- 29:20 : Changing lives
29:20 -- 36:10 : Overwhelmed and values
36:10 -- 41:50 : Tribalism and memes
41:50 – 55:40 : Data centres
55:40 – 01:00:01 : The Blitz
If you like what we do at Citizen Web3:
Stake with Citizen Web3 validator (https://www.citizenweb3.com/staking)
Listen to the YouTube version (https://youtu.be/VkgjyhF2xtY)
Follow us on Twitter (https://x.com/citizen_web3)
Sign up to the RSS feed (https://www.citizenweb3.com/rss)
Special Guest: Nixo.
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<p>This episode of the #citizenweb3 podcast features Nixo from Ethereum Foundation</p>

<p>Nixo shared candid insights on trust in centralized exchanges, the small yet influential nature of Crypto Twitter, and the importance of following genuine interests over money. He also highlighted challenges in finding competent legal experts and how people are naturally inclined to pick sides in the crypto space.</p>

<p>The Ethereum Foundation (EF) is a nonprofit dedicated to supporting Ethereum’s development, research, and ecosystem growth. While it doesn’t control Ethereum, it funds key upgrades, research, and community initiatives to ensure the network remains open, decentralized, and innovative.</p>

<hr>

<h5>We spoke to <a href="https://x.com/nixorokish?t=ouWgiEmgpDMG0gI7_br-Sg&s=09" rel="nofollow">Nixo</a>  about <a href="https://x.com/ethereumfndn" rel="nofollow">Ethereum Foundation</a> and:</h5>

<ul>
<li>I was like, of course, I trust centralized exchanges</li>
<li>Sketchy Russian exchange</li>
<li>Breeds of Oceanographers</li>
<li>Solo stakers</li>
<li>Go where you’re interested instead of following the money</li>
<li>Synthesizing cocaine</li>
<li>Finding competent lawyers and CPAs</li>
<li>Crypto Twitter is extremely small </li>
<li>Evolutionarily predisposed to picking a team</li>
</ul>

<p>Timestamps</p>

<p>00:00 – 11:30 : Intro <br>
11:30 -- 18:10 : Dream journey<br>
18:10 -- 24:00 : Sirens are calling and the loss of physical cash<br>
24:00 -- 29:20 : Changing lives<br>
29:20 -- 36:10 : Overwhelmed and values<br>
36:10 -- 41:50 : Tribalism and memes<br>
41:50 – 55:40 : Data centres<br>
55:40 – 01:00:01 : The Blitz</p>

<hr>

<h5>If you like what we do at Citizen Web3:</h5>

<ul>
<li>Stake with Citizen Web3 <a href="https://www.citizenweb3.com/staking" rel="nofollow">validator</a></li>
<li>Listen to the <a href="https://youtu.be/VkgjyhF2xtY" rel="nofollow">YouTube version</a></li>
<li>Follow us on <a href="https://x.com/citizen_web3" rel="nofollow">Twitter</a></li>
<li>Sign up to the <a href="https://www.citizenweb3.com/rss" rel="nofollow">RSS feed</a></li>
</ul><p>Special Guest: Nixo.</p><p>Links:</p><ul><li><a title="Bankless" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.bankless.com/">Bankless</a></li><li><a title="Beacon chain" rel="nofollow" href="https://beaconcha.in/">Beacon chain</a></li><li><a title="Bermuda" rel="nofollow" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bermuda">Bermuda</a></li><li><a title="Bitcoin" rel="nofollow" href="https://bitcoin.org/en/">Bitcoin</a></li><li><a title="BTC-E" rel="nofollow" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BTC-e">BTC-E</a></li><li><a title="Cardano" rel="nofollow" href="https://cardano.org/">Cardano</a></li><li><a title="CIA headquarters" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.cia.gov/legacy/headquarters/">CIA headquarters</a></li><li><a title="Cosmos" rel="nofollow" href="https://cosmos.network/">Cosmos</a></li><li><a title="Doge" rel="nofollow" href="https://dogecoin.com/">Doge</a></li><li><a title="E-Trader" rel="nofollow" href="https://us.etrade.com/home">E-Trader</a></li><li><a title="Ethereum" rel="nofollow" href="https://ethereum.org/">Ethereum</a></li><li><a title="Ethereum Foundation" rel="nofollow" href="https://ethereum.foundation/">Ethereum Foundation</a></li><li><a title="Hetzner" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.hetzner.com/">Hetzner</a></li><li><a title="Just Kids by Patti Smith" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/206318521-just-kids">Just Kids by Patti Smith</a></li><li><a title="Localbitcoins" rel="nofollow" href="https://localbitcoins.com/">Localbitcoins</a></li><li><a title="Madeira" rel="nofollow" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madeira">Madeira</a></li><li><a title="Near" rel="nofollow" href="https://near.org/">Near</a></li><li><a title="P2P" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.citizenweb3.com/p2p">P2P</a></li><li><a title="Panda Ops" rel="nofollow" href="https://ethpandaops.io/">Panda Ops</a></li><li><a title="Polkadot" rel="nofollow" href="https://polkadot.network/">Polkadot</a></li><li><a title="Poloniex" rel="nofollow" href="https://poloniex.com/">Poloniex</a></li><li><a title="Reddit" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.reddit.com/">Reddit</a></li><li><a title="Starlink" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.starlink.com/">Starlink</a></li><li><a title="Steakfish" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.citizenweb3.com/stakefish-adoption">Steakfish</a></li><li><a title="Solana" rel="nofollow" href="https://solana.com/">Solana</a></li><li><a title="Tim Wu" rel="nofollow" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tim_Wu">Tim Wu</a></li><li><a title="Vitalik" rel="nofollow" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vitalik_Buterin">Vitalik</a></li><li><a title="X (formally Twitter)" rel="nofollow" href="https://x.com/">X (formally Twitter)</a></li><li><a title="YouTube" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.youtube.com/">YouTube</a></li></ul>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<hr>

<p>This episode of the #citizenweb3 podcast features Nixo from Ethereum Foundation</p>

<p>Nixo shared candid insights on trust in centralized exchanges, the small yet influential nature of Crypto Twitter, and the importance of following genuine interests over money. He also highlighted challenges in finding competent legal experts and how people are naturally inclined to pick sides in the crypto space.</p>

<p>The Ethereum Foundation (EF) is a nonprofit dedicated to supporting Ethereum’s development, research, and ecosystem growth. While it doesn’t control Ethereum, it funds key upgrades, research, and community initiatives to ensure the network remains open, decentralized, and innovative.</p>

<hr>

<h5>We spoke to <a href="https://x.com/nixorokish?t=ouWgiEmgpDMG0gI7_br-Sg&s=09" rel="nofollow">Nixo</a>  about <a href="https://x.com/ethereumfndn" rel="nofollow">Ethereum Foundation</a> and:</h5>

<ul>
<li>I was like, of course, I trust centralized exchanges</li>
<li>Sketchy Russian exchange</li>
<li>Breeds of Oceanographers</li>
<li>Solo stakers</li>
<li>Go where you’re interested instead of following the money</li>
<li>Synthesizing cocaine</li>
<li>Finding competent lawyers and CPAs</li>
<li>Crypto Twitter is extremely small </li>
<li>Evolutionarily predisposed to picking a team</li>
</ul>

<p>Timestamps</p>

<p>00:00 – 11:30 : Intro <br>
11:30 -- 18:10 : Dream journey<br>
18:10 -- 24:00 : Sirens are calling and the loss of physical cash<br>
24:00 -- 29:20 : Changing lives<br>
29:20 -- 36:10 : Overwhelmed and values<br>
36:10 -- 41:50 : Tribalism and memes<br>
41:50 – 55:40 : Data centres<br>
55:40 – 01:00:01 : The Blitz</p>

<hr>

<h5>If you like what we do at Citizen Web3:</h5>

<ul>
<li>Stake with Citizen Web3 <a href="https://www.citizenweb3.com/staking" rel="nofollow">validator</a></li>
<li>Listen to the <a href="https://youtu.be/VkgjyhF2xtY" rel="nofollow">YouTube version</a></li>
<li>Follow us on <a href="https://x.com/citizen_web3" rel="nofollow">Twitter</a></li>
<li>Sign up to the <a href="https://www.citizenweb3.com/rss" rel="nofollow">RSS feed</a></li>
</ul><p>Special Guest: Nixo.</p><p>Links:</p><ul><li><a title="Bankless" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.bankless.com/">Bankless</a></li><li><a title="Beacon chain" rel="nofollow" href="https://beaconcha.in/">Beacon chain</a></li><li><a title="Bermuda" rel="nofollow" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bermuda">Bermuda</a></li><li><a title="Bitcoin" rel="nofollow" href="https://bitcoin.org/en/">Bitcoin</a></li><li><a title="BTC-E" rel="nofollow" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BTC-e">BTC-E</a></li><li><a title="Cardano" rel="nofollow" href="https://cardano.org/">Cardano</a></li><li><a title="CIA headquarters" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.cia.gov/legacy/headquarters/">CIA headquarters</a></li><li><a title="Cosmos" rel="nofollow" href="https://cosmos.network/">Cosmos</a></li><li><a title="Doge" rel="nofollow" href="https://dogecoin.com/">Doge</a></li><li><a title="E-Trader" rel="nofollow" href="https://us.etrade.com/home">E-Trader</a></li><li><a title="Ethereum" rel="nofollow" href="https://ethereum.org/">Ethereum</a></li><li><a title="Ethereum Foundation" rel="nofollow" href="https://ethereum.foundation/">Ethereum Foundation</a></li><li><a title="Hetzner" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.hetzner.com/">Hetzner</a></li><li><a title="Just Kids by Patti Smith" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/206318521-just-kids">Just Kids by Patti Smith</a></li><li><a title="Localbitcoins" rel="nofollow" href="https://localbitcoins.com/">Localbitcoins</a></li><li><a title="Madeira" rel="nofollow" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madeira">Madeira</a></li><li><a title="Near" rel="nofollow" href="https://near.org/">Near</a></li><li><a title="P2P" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.citizenweb3.com/p2p">P2P</a></li><li><a title="Panda Ops" rel="nofollow" href="https://ethpandaops.io/">Panda Ops</a></li><li><a title="Polkadot" rel="nofollow" href="https://polkadot.network/">Polkadot</a></li><li><a title="Poloniex" rel="nofollow" href="https://poloniex.com/">Poloniex</a></li><li><a title="Reddit" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.reddit.com/">Reddit</a></li><li><a title="Starlink" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.starlink.com/">Starlink</a></li><li><a title="Steakfish" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.citizenweb3.com/stakefish-adoption">Steakfish</a></li><li><a title="Solana" rel="nofollow" href="https://solana.com/">Solana</a></li><li><a title="Tim Wu" rel="nofollow" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tim_Wu">Tim Wu</a></li><li><a title="Vitalik" rel="nofollow" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vitalik_Buterin">Vitalik</a></li><li><a title="X (formally Twitter)" rel="nofollow" href="https://x.com/">X (formally Twitter)</a></li><li><a title="YouTube" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.youtube.com/">YouTube</a></li></ul>]]>
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  <title>Crypto Fairy Tales, Open Source and Ethos with Max Basement </title>
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  <pubDate>Thu, 07 Mar 2024 18:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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  <description>This episode of the #citizenweb3 podcast features Max from Basement Nodes. He gave us his persepctive on what is needed to run a validator and how best to optimize resources for a smaller validator. As a validator who is in it for the tech, he opened up about his ethos and values in Web3. Max's mission is to show that anyone can take part in crypto and that everyone has an equal opportunity, unlike many other places in life and he is leading by example.
We spoke to Max (https://twitter.com/BasementNodes)  about Basement Nodes (https://twitter.com/BasementNodes) and:
Values
Marketing
Privacy
Open Source
In it for the Tech
Learning from life
Decentralization
The different kinds of fairy tales Crypto can be
Fear 
Obstacles and solutions for validation setup
Motivations and values
Ethos of Crypto
Decentralized infrastructure
Community building
If you like what we do at Citizen Web3:
Stake with Citizen Web3 validator (https://www.citizenweb3.com/staking)
Listen to the YouTube version (https://youtu.be/aPBZxV1_FAs)
Follow us on Twitter (https://twitter.com/cosmos_voice)
Sign up to the RSS feed (https://www.citizenweb3.com/rss)
Special Guest: Max.
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<p>This episode of the #citizenweb3 podcast features Max from Basement Nodes. He gave us his persepctive on what is needed to run a validator and how best to optimize resources for a smaller validator. As a validator who is in it for the tech, he opened up about his ethos and values in Web3. Max&#39;s mission is to show that anyone can take part in crypto and that everyone has an equal opportunity, unlike many other places in life and he is leading by example.</p>

<hr>

<h5>We spoke to <a href="https://twitter.com/BasementNodes" rel="nofollow">Max</a>  about <a href="https://twitter.com/BasementNodes" rel="nofollow">Basement Nodes</a> and:</h5>

<ul>
<li>Values</li>
<li>Marketing</li>
<li>Privacy</li>
<li>Open Source</li>
<li>In it for the Tech</li>
<li>Learning from life</li>
<li>Decentralization</li>
<li>The different kinds of fairy tales Crypto can be</li>
<li>Fear </li>
<li>Obstacles and solutions for validation setup</li>
<li>Motivations and values</li>
<li>Ethos of Crypto</li>
<li>Decentralized infrastructure</li>
<li>Community building</li>
</ul>

<hr>

<h5>If you like what we do at Citizen Web3:</h5>

<ul>
<li>Stake with Citizen Web3 <a href="https://www.citizenweb3.com/staking" rel="nofollow">validator</a></li>
<li>Listen to the <a href="https://youtu.be/aPBZxV1_FAs" rel="nofollow">YouTube version</a></li>
<li>Follow us on <a href="https://twitter.com/cosmos_voice" rel="nofollow">Twitter</a></li>
<li>Sign up to the <a href="https://www.citizenweb3.com/rss" rel="nofollow">RSS feed</a></li>
</ul><p>Special Guest: Max.</p><p>Links:</p><ul><li><a title="Arch" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.arch.finance/">Arch</a></li><li><a title="Cyber" rel="nofollow" href="https://cyb.ai/">Cyber</a></li><li><a title="Decentr" rel="nofollow" href="https://decentr.net/">Decentr</a></li><li><a title="Docker" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.docker.com/">Docker</a></li><li><a title="Lavender five" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.lavenderfive.com/">Lavender five</a></li><li><a title="Linux" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.linux.org/">Linux</a></li><li><a title="Jacob" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.citizenweb3.com/notional1">Jacob</a></li><li><a title="Juno" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.citizenweb3.com/juno">Juno</a></li><li><a title="Nomic" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.nomic.io/">Nomic</a></li><li><a title="Osmosis" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.citizenweb3.com/osmosis">Osmosis</a></li><li><a title="Phoebe" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.citizenweb3.com/likecoin">Phoebe</a></li><li><a title="Ubuntu" rel="nofollow" href="https://ubuntu.com/server/docs/introduction-to-crypto-libraries">Ubuntu</a></li></ul>]]>
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  <itunes:summary>
    <![CDATA[<hr>

<p>This episode of the #citizenweb3 podcast features Max from Basement Nodes. He gave us his persepctive on what is needed to run a validator and how best to optimize resources for a smaller validator. As a validator who is in it for the tech, he opened up about his ethos and values in Web3. Max&#39;s mission is to show that anyone can take part in crypto and that everyone has an equal opportunity, unlike many other places in life and he is leading by example.</p>

<hr>

<h5>We spoke to <a href="https://twitter.com/BasementNodes" rel="nofollow">Max</a>  about <a href="https://twitter.com/BasementNodes" rel="nofollow">Basement Nodes</a> and:</h5>

<ul>
<li>Values</li>
<li>Marketing</li>
<li>Privacy</li>
<li>Open Source</li>
<li>In it for the Tech</li>
<li>Learning from life</li>
<li>Decentralization</li>
<li>The different kinds of fairy tales Crypto can be</li>
<li>Fear </li>
<li>Obstacles and solutions for validation setup</li>
<li>Motivations and values</li>
<li>Ethos of Crypto</li>
<li>Decentralized infrastructure</li>
<li>Community building</li>
</ul>

<hr>

<h5>If you like what we do at Citizen Web3:</h5>

<ul>
<li>Stake with Citizen Web3 <a href="https://www.citizenweb3.com/staking" rel="nofollow">validator</a></li>
<li>Listen to the <a href="https://youtu.be/aPBZxV1_FAs" rel="nofollow">YouTube version</a></li>
<li>Follow us on <a href="https://twitter.com/cosmos_voice" rel="nofollow">Twitter</a></li>
<li>Sign up to the <a href="https://www.citizenweb3.com/rss" rel="nofollow">RSS feed</a></li>
</ul><p>Special Guest: Max.</p><p>Links:</p><ul><li><a title="Arch" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.arch.finance/">Arch</a></li><li><a title="Cyber" rel="nofollow" href="https://cyb.ai/">Cyber</a></li><li><a title="Decentr" rel="nofollow" href="https://decentr.net/">Decentr</a></li><li><a title="Docker" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.docker.com/">Docker</a></li><li><a title="Lavender five" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.lavenderfive.com/">Lavender five</a></li><li><a title="Linux" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.linux.org/">Linux</a></li><li><a title="Jacob" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.citizenweb3.com/notional1">Jacob</a></li><li><a title="Juno" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.citizenweb3.com/juno">Juno</a></li><li><a title="Nomic" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.nomic.io/">Nomic</a></li><li><a title="Osmosis" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.citizenweb3.com/osmosis">Osmosis</a></li><li><a title="Phoebe" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.citizenweb3.com/likecoin">Phoebe</a></li><li><a title="Ubuntu" rel="nofollow" href="https://ubuntu.com/server/docs/introduction-to-crypto-libraries">Ubuntu</a></li></ul>]]>
  </itunes:summary>
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<item>
  <title>The Best Day Ever, Laser Eyes and Market Cycles with Willy Ogorzaly</title>
  <link>http://podcast.citizenweb3.com/shapeshift</link>
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  <pubDate>Fri, 29 Apr 2022 13:00:00 +0100</pubDate>
  <author>serejandmyself</author>
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  <itunes:subtitle>This episode of the #citizenweb3 podcast features Willy Ogorzaly, head of decentralization at the ShapeShift DAO, governing one of the oldest non-custodial exchanges, which allows users to trade crypto</itunes:subtitle>
  <itunes:duration>40:41</itunes:duration>
  <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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  <description>This episode of the #citizenweb3 podcast features Willy Ogorzaly, head of decentralization at the ShapeShift DAO, governing one of the oldest non-custodial exchanges, which allows users to trade crypto. 
ShapeShift gives you zero-commission crypto trading, and you always stay in control of your crypto private keys. 
We spoke to Willy Ogorzaly (https://twitter.com/WillyOgo) about ShapeShift DAO (https://shapeshift.com/) and:
DAO's 
Memes
CEX vs. DEX
DeFi 
Financial sovereignty
Community
Values 
Market cycles
Fox chain and airdrop 
The interchain
MLE and MVP 
Progressive decentralization
Motivation, values and goals
Staking
Yields 
Laser eyes
Maximalism
The best day ever 
Bounties
If you like what we do at Citizen Web3:
Stake with Citizen Web3 validator (https://www.citizenweb3.com/staking)
Listen to the YouTube version (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fTuE0cDQo0U)
Follow us on Twitter (https://twitter.com/citizen_web3)
Sign up to the RSS feed (https://www.citizenweb3.com/rss) Special Guest: Willy Ogorzaly.
</description>
  <itunes:keywords>citizenweb3, blockchain, tendermint, it, finance, cosmos, web3, serejandmyself, podcast, bitcoin, ethereum, serj and anna, citizen cosmos, crypto, cryptocurrency, atom, technology, ecosystem, values, web2, motivation, staking, rewards, apy, apr, informal systems, cosmos hub, interchain, security, ethereum, programming, adoption, value proposition, governance, research, goals, education, developers, protocol, token, internet, validator, node, community, willy ogorzaly, shapeshift, financial sovereignty, dex, mle, mlp, laser eyes, airdrop, dao, nft, maximalism, sound money, memes, market cycles</itunes:keywords>
  <content:encoded>
    <![CDATA[<hr>

<p>This episode of the #citizenweb3 podcast features Willy Ogorzaly, head of decentralization at the ShapeShift DAO, governing one of the oldest non-custodial exchanges, which allows users to trade crypto. </p>

<p>ShapeShift gives you zero-commission crypto trading, and you always stay in control of your crypto private keys. </p>

<hr>

<h5>We spoke to <a href="https://twitter.com/WillyOgo" rel="nofollow">Willy Ogorzaly</a> about <a href="https://shapeshift.com/" rel="nofollow">ShapeShift DAO</a> and:</h5>

<ul>
<li>DAO&#39;s </li>
<li>Memes</li>
<li>CEX vs. DEX</li>
<li>DeFi </li>
<li>Financial sovereignty</li>
<li>Community</li>
<li>Values </li>
<li>Market cycles</li>
<li>Fox chain and airdrop </li>
<li>The interchain</li>
<li>MLE and MVP </li>
<li>Progressive decentralization</li>
<li>Motivation, values and goals</li>
<li>Staking</li>
<li>Yields </li>
<li>Laser eyes</li>
<li>Maximalism</li>
<li>The best day ever </li>
<li>Bounties</li>
</ul>

<hr>

<h5>If you like what we do at Citizen Web3:</h5>

<ul>
<li>Stake with Citizen Web3 <a href="https://www.citizenweb3.com/staking" rel="nofollow">validator</a></li>
<li>Listen to the <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fTuE0cDQo0U" rel="nofollow">YouTube version</a></li>
<li>Follow us on <a href="https://twitter.com/citizen_web3" rel="nofollow">Twitter</a></li>
<li>Sign up to the <a href="https://www.citizenweb3.com/rss" rel="nofollow">RSS feed</a></li>
</ul><p>Special Guest: Willy Ogorzaly.</p><p>Links:</p><ul><li><a title="Bitcoin" rel="nofollow" href="https://bitcoin.org/en/">Bitcoin</a></li><li><a title="Cosmos" rel="nofollow" href="https://cosmos.network/">Cosmos</a></li><li><a title="Ethereum" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.ethereum.org/">Ethereum</a></li><li><a title="Gitcoin" rel="nofollow" href="https://gitcoin.co/">Gitcoin</a></li><li><a title="Giveth" rel="nofollow" href="https://giveth.io/">Giveth</a></li><li><a title="IBC" rel="nofollow" href="https://ibcprotocol.org/">IBC</a></li><li><a title="Mt. Gox" rel="nofollow" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mt._Gox">Mt. Gox</a></li><li><a title="ShapeShift" rel="nofollow" href="https://shapeshift.com/">ShapeShift</a></li><li><a title="Tendermint" rel="nofollow" href="https://tendermint.com/">Tendermint</a></li><li><a title="Thorchain" rel="nofollow" href="https://thorchain.org/">Thorchain</a></li></ul>]]>
  </content:encoded>
  <itunes:summary>
    <![CDATA[<hr>

<p>This episode of the #citizenweb3 podcast features Willy Ogorzaly, head of decentralization at the ShapeShift DAO, governing one of the oldest non-custodial exchanges, which allows users to trade crypto. </p>

<p>ShapeShift gives you zero-commission crypto trading, and you always stay in control of your crypto private keys. </p>

<hr>

<h5>We spoke to <a href="https://twitter.com/WillyOgo" rel="nofollow">Willy Ogorzaly</a> about <a href="https://shapeshift.com/" rel="nofollow">ShapeShift DAO</a> and:</h5>

<ul>
<li>DAO&#39;s </li>
<li>Memes</li>
<li>CEX vs. DEX</li>
<li>DeFi </li>
<li>Financial sovereignty</li>
<li>Community</li>
<li>Values </li>
<li>Market cycles</li>
<li>Fox chain and airdrop </li>
<li>The interchain</li>
<li>MLE and MVP </li>
<li>Progressive decentralization</li>
<li>Motivation, values and goals</li>
<li>Staking</li>
<li>Yields </li>
<li>Laser eyes</li>
<li>Maximalism</li>
<li>The best day ever </li>
<li>Bounties</li>
</ul>

<hr>

<h5>If you like what we do at Citizen Web3:</h5>

<ul>
<li>Stake with Citizen Web3 <a href="https://www.citizenweb3.com/staking" rel="nofollow">validator</a></li>
<li>Listen to the <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fTuE0cDQo0U" rel="nofollow">YouTube version</a></li>
<li>Follow us on <a href="https://twitter.com/citizen_web3" rel="nofollow">Twitter</a></li>
<li>Sign up to the <a href="https://www.citizenweb3.com/rss" rel="nofollow">RSS feed</a></li>
</ul><p>Special Guest: Willy Ogorzaly.</p><p>Links:</p><ul><li><a title="Bitcoin" rel="nofollow" href="https://bitcoin.org/en/">Bitcoin</a></li><li><a title="Cosmos" rel="nofollow" href="https://cosmos.network/">Cosmos</a></li><li><a title="Ethereum" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.ethereum.org/">Ethereum</a></li><li><a title="Gitcoin" rel="nofollow" href="https://gitcoin.co/">Gitcoin</a></li><li><a title="Giveth" rel="nofollow" href="https://giveth.io/">Giveth</a></li><li><a title="IBC" rel="nofollow" href="https://ibcprotocol.org/">IBC</a></li><li><a title="Mt. Gox" rel="nofollow" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mt._Gox">Mt. Gox</a></li><li><a title="ShapeShift" rel="nofollow" href="https://shapeshift.com/">ShapeShift</a></li><li><a title="Tendermint" rel="nofollow" href="https://tendermint.com/">Tendermint</a></li><li><a title="Thorchain" rel="nofollow" href="https://thorchain.org/">Thorchain</a></li></ul>]]>
  </itunes:summary>
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<item>
  <title>Values, Engagement &amp; the Decentralized World with Ethan Frey </title>
  <link>http://podcast.citizenweb3.com/cosmwasm</link>
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  <pubDate>Mon, 20 Sep 2021 17:00:00 +0100</pubDate>
  <author>serejandmyself</author>
  <enclosure url="https://dts.podtrac.com/redirect.mp3/aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/b7b002a5-a00c-41c2-be10-c7b841fecc01/cc9a7541-9766-49d1-ac3f-a210efe3fcf9.mp3" length="91326779" type="audio/mpeg"/>
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  <itunes:subtitle>This episode of the #citizenweb3 podcast features Ethan Frey, founder &amp; CEO of CosmWasm and Tgrade</itunes:subtitle>
  <itunes:duration>46:51</itunes:duration>
  <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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  <description>This episode of the #citizenweb3 podcast features Ethan Frey, founder &amp;amp; CEO of CosmWasm and Tgrade.
CosmWasm allows you to build robust dApps, on secure, multi-chain smart contracts. It is built using Cosmos-SDK/Tendermint and Rust. This allows your contracts to run on multiple chains, utilizing IBC (InterBlockchian Communication Protocol). 
Tgrade is labeled as the Bigbang of Regulated Blockchain technology., with a vision for self-sovereign groups, bound by their local jurisdiction and regulations, trading P2P programmable financial instruments. It is a self-sovereign framework which ensures the principle of decentralization. Institutions within a given jurisdiction can each a self-sovereign group and ensure they comply with their local regulations. On-chain financial instruments controlled by self-sovereign groups, and on-chain governance complying with corresponding off-chain regulations, is the key solution.
Confio, the key contributor to both - Tgrade and CosmWasm, is developing blockchain technology, decentralized business models and in re-thinking finance
We spoke to Ethan Frey (https://github.com/ethanfrey) about CosmWasm (https://cosmwasm.com/) and:
How to manage multiple projects 
Confio and their role 
CosmWasm at the infrastructure level
Value propositions for the interchain
The role of blockchain 
DeFi and market fit
Tgrade and Proof of engagement 
DAOs and more DAOs
The non-monetary values of blockchains
Regulations in the decentralized world
If you like what we do at Citizen Web3:
Stake with Citizen Web3 validator (https://www.citizenweb3.com/staking)
Listen to the YouTube version (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQAwy7M_2uc)
Follow us on Twitter (https://twitter.com/citizen_web3)
Sign up to the RSS feed (https://www.citizenweb3.com/rss) Special Guest: Ethan Frey.
</description>
  <itunes:keywords>citizenweb3, blockchain, tendermint, it, finance, cosmos, web3, serejandmyself, podcast, serj and anna, citizen cosmos, crypto, cryptocurrency, atom, technology, ecosystem, interchain, ethan frey, cosmwasm, confio, tgrade, values, interchain, regulaition and decetralization, market fit, philosophy</itunes:keywords>
  <content:encoded>
    <![CDATA[<hr>

<p>This episode of the #citizenweb3 podcast features Ethan Frey, founder &amp; CEO of CosmWasm and Tgrade.</p>

<p>CosmWasm allows you to build robust dApps, on secure, multi-chain smart contracts. It is built using Cosmos-SDK/Tendermint and Rust. This allows your contracts to run on multiple chains, utilizing IBC (InterBlockchian Communication Protocol). </p>

<p>Tgrade is labeled as the Bigbang of Regulated Blockchain technology., with a vision for self-sovereign groups, bound by their local jurisdiction and regulations, trading P2P programmable financial instruments. It is a self-sovereign framework which ensures the principle of decentralization. Institutions within a given jurisdiction can each a self-sovereign group and ensure they comply with their local regulations. On-chain financial instruments controlled by self-sovereign groups, and on-chain governance complying with corresponding off-chain regulations, is the key solution.</p>

<p>Confio, the key contributor to both - Tgrade and CosmWasm, is developing blockchain technology, decentralized business models and in re-thinking finance</p>

<hr>

<h5>We spoke to <a href="https://github.com/ethanfrey" rel="nofollow">Ethan Frey</a> about <a href="https://cosmwasm.com/" rel="nofollow">CosmWasm</a> and:</h5>

<ul>
<li>How to manage multiple projects </li>
<li>Confio and their role </li>
<li>CosmWasm at the infrastructure level</li>
<li>Value propositions for the interchain</li>
<li>The role of blockchain </li>
<li>DeFi and market fit</li>
<li>Tgrade and Proof of engagement </li>
<li>DAOs and more DAOs</li>
<li>The non-monetary values of blockchains</li>
<li>Regulations in the decentralized world</li>
</ul>

<hr>

<h5>If you like what we do at Citizen Web3:</h5>

<ul>
<li>Stake with Citizen Web3 <a href="https://www.citizenweb3.com/staking" rel="nofollow">validator</a></li>
<li>Listen to the <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQAwy7M_2uc" rel="nofollow">YouTube version</a></li>
<li>Follow us on <a href="https://twitter.com/citizen_web3" rel="nofollow">Twitter</a></li>
<li>Sign up to the <a href="https://www.citizenweb3.com/rss" rel="nofollow">RSS feed</a></li>
</ul><p>Special Guest: Ethan Frey.</p><p>Links:</p><ul><li><a title="Althea" rel="nofollow" href="https://althea.net/">Althea</a></li><li><a title="Avalanche" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.avax.network/">Avalanche</a></li><li><a title="Confio" rel="nofollow" href="https://confio.tech">Confio</a></li><li><a title="Cosmos" rel="nofollow" href="https://cosmos.network/">Cosmos</a></li><li><a title="CosmWasm" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.cosmwasm.com/">CosmWasm</a></li><li><a title="Ethereum" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.ethereum.org/">Ethereum</a></li><li><a title="IrisNet" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.irisnet.org/">IrisNet</a></li><li><a title="Juno" rel="nofollow" href="https://junochain.com/">Juno</a></li><li><a title="Persistence" rel="nofollow" href="https://persistence.one/">Persistence</a></li><li><a title="Proof of engagement" rel="nofollow" href="https://web.tresorit.com/l/7HLiC#iYWzPgW2sSpzckRr6OxkmQ">Proof of engagement</a></li><li><a title="Provenance" rel="nofollow" href="https://provenance.io/">Provenance</a></li><li><a title="Regen Network" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.regen.network/">Regen Network</a></li><li><a title="Rust" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.rust-lang.org/">Rust</a></li><li><a title="Stargate" rel="nofollow" href="https://stargate.cosmos.network/">Stargate</a></li><li><a title="Tendermint" rel="nofollow" href="https://tendermint.com/">Tendermint</a></li><li><a title="Terra" rel="nofollow" href="https://terra.money/">Terra</a></li><li><a title="Tgrade" rel="nofollow" href="https://tgrade.finance/">Tgrade</a></li><li><a title="Tgrade blog" rel="nofollow" href="https://medium.com/tgradefinance">Tgrade blog</a></li><li><a title="Tgrade constitution" rel="nofollow" href="https://web.tresorit.com/l/3Z0f7#0tr1RTUCPxapskNnW5wG-g">Tgrade constitution</a></li><li><a title="Tgrade Discord" rel="nofollow" href="https://discord.gg/qMRjtcmT">Tgrade Discord</a></li><li><a title="Tgrade twitter" rel="nofollow" href="https://twitter.com/TgradeFinance">Tgrade twitter</a></li><li><a title="Tgrade WP" rel="nofollow" href="https://web.tresorit.com/l/8zVJ9#tseqs5UDRAyV6Xm6mQ751w">Tgrade WP</a></li></ul>]]>
  </content:encoded>
  <itunes:summary>
    <![CDATA[<hr>

<p>This episode of the #citizenweb3 podcast features Ethan Frey, founder &amp; CEO of CosmWasm and Tgrade.</p>

<p>CosmWasm allows you to build robust dApps, on secure, multi-chain smart contracts. It is built using Cosmos-SDK/Tendermint and Rust. This allows your contracts to run on multiple chains, utilizing IBC (InterBlockchian Communication Protocol). </p>

<p>Tgrade is labeled as the Bigbang of Regulated Blockchain technology., with a vision for self-sovereign groups, bound by their local jurisdiction and regulations, trading P2P programmable financial instruments. It is a self-sovereign framework which ensures the principle of decentralization. Institutions within a given jurisdiction can each a self-sovereign group and ensure they comply with their local regulations. On-chain financial instruments controlled by self-sovereign groups, and on-chain governance complying with corresponding off-chain regulations, is the key solution.</p>

<p>Confio, the key contributor to both - Tgrade and CosmWasm, is developing blockchain technology, decentralized business models and in re-thinking finance</p>

<hr>

<h5>We spoke to <a href="https://github.com/ethanfrey" rel="nofollow">Ethan Frey</a> about <a href="https://cosmwasm.com/" rel="nofollow">CosmWasm</a> and:</h5>

<ul>
<li>How to manage multiple projects </li>
<li>Confio and their role </li>
<li>CosmWasm at the infrastructure level</li>
<li>Value propositions for the interchain</li>
<li>The role of blockchain </li>
<li>DeFi and market fit</li>
<li>Tgrade and Proof of engagement </li>
<li>DAOs and more DAOs</li>
<li>The non-monetary values of blockchains</li>
<li>Regulations in the decentralized world</li>
</ul>

<hr>

<h5>If you like what we do at Citizen Web3:</h5>

<ul>
<li>Stake with Citizen Web3 <a href="https://www.citizenweb3.com/staking" rel="nofollow">validator</a></li>
<li>Listen to the <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQAwy7M_2uc" rel="nofollow">YouTube version</a></li>
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